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Loyd (Lloyd), John 3rd

Male 1772 - 1837  (64 years)


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  • Name Loyd (Lloyd), John  
    Suffix 3rd 
    Birth 14 Oct 1772  Newport, Newport, Rhode Island Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2] 
    • John Lloyd 3rd is said to have been born in Bristol, Rhode Island 14 Oct 1772 or 17 Mar 1775. I have not yet found a record of this birth. However his presumed parents, John Lloyd 2nd and Susanna Chadwick were married in Newport, Rhode Island in 1769 or 1770 and were living there in 1774. (see John Lloyd 2nd)
    Gender Male 
    Residence 1796 - 1802  Petersburgh, Rensselaer, New York Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 4, 5] 
    Married in Petersburgh in 1796.

    James Lewis & John Lloyd took over the lease for a farm in Petersburgh previously leased by Elijah Brown. John's name last appeared in the ledger 7 Sep 1802. Their lease itself has not survived. Under the terms of a standard Rennselaerwyck lease the tenant was responsible for all taxes.

    1799 Tax Roll: John Loyd. Value of real estate - $532
    1800 Tax Roll: John Loyd. Value of real estate - $532
    1801 Tax Roll: John Loyd. Value of real estate - $532
    1802 Tax Roll: John Loyd. Value of real estate - $532

    1800 US Census
    Name: John Loyd
    Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Petersburg, Rensselaer, New York
    Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 [OK for John 4th]
    Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 3 [Brother of John 3rd?]
    Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 [OK for John 3rd]
    Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 2 [Daughter of John 3rd?]
    Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1 [Sister of John 3rd?]
    Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1 [Sarah]
    Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 [Mother of John 3rd?]

    Household is unexpectedly large for such a young man. Possibly John 2nd died in Rhode Island and John 3rd led his family to New York. 
    Residence 1802 - 1820  Plainfield, Otsego, New York Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7, 8] 
    1802 Tax Roll: John Loyd & Co, Store, House, Mill & tavern, Real estate: $530, Personal: $184, Total: $714
    1803 Tax Roll: John Loyd, Real estate: $1087, Personal: $255, Total: $1392

    1810 US Census
    Name: J Loyd
    Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Plainfield, Otsego, New York
    Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 2
    Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 2 [John and Ransom]
    Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 5 [Who?]
    Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 [John]
    Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 [Who?]
    Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 2 [Nancy & who?]
    Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1 [Who?]
    Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1 [Who?]
    Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 [Sarah]
    Number of All Other Free Persons: 1
    Number of Household Members Under 16: 7
    Number of Household Members Over 25: 3
    Number of Household Members: 17


    1820 US Census
    Name: John Loyd
    Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Plainfield, Otsego, New York
    Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
    Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 3
    Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1
    Free White Persons - Under 16: 5
    Free White Persons - Over 25: 2 
    Residence 1821 - 1830  Angelica, Allegany, New York Find all individuals with events at this location  [9, 10] 
    That John and Sarah had removed to Angelica by 1821 is established by Sarah's death notice in the Watch Tower of 17 Dec 1821 which said "Died - In the Village of Angelica on the 15th of November last, Mrs. Sarah Lloyd, wife of Capt John Lloyd, late of Plainfield, in this county, aged 44 years, after a long and lingering sickness."

    1830 US Census
    Name: John Lloyd
    Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Allegany, New York, Angelica
    Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 2
    Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 2
    Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
    Free White Persons - Under 20: 4
    Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 1
    Total Free White Persons: 6 
    Death 24 May 1837  Warren County, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1] 
    Person ID I2787  Martin-Bloom
    Last Modified 4 Aug 2021 

    Father Lloyd, John 2nd,   c. 11 Jul 1750, Trinity Church, Newport, Newport, Rhode Island Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Chadwick, Susannah,   c. 5 Nov 1759, Trinity Church, Newport, Newport, Rhode Island Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage 13 May 1770  Trinity Church, Newport, Newport, Rhode Island Find all individuals with events at this location  [11] 
    • The marriage records for the groom and the bride in the same book differ by 1 year (1769 and 1770).
    Notes 
    • SUMMARY OF DATA FOR THIS FAMILY: Although undocumented sources have asserted that John Lloyd 2nd and Susanna Chadwick were the parents of John Lloyd 3rd and that John Lloyd 3rd was born in Bristol Rhode, Island, I have found no birth records supporting these assertions. John 2nd and Susanna Chadwick were married at Trinity Church in Newport RI in 1769 or 1770, and the 1774 Rhode Island Census showed that they had son the right age to be John 3rd. When the British occupied Newport in 1776, John 2nd and his family removed to Charlestown, Rhode Island where they lived until at least 1790. Indeed, John 2nd was the only Loyd or Lloyd who appeared in the 1774 Rhode Island Census, the 1777 Rhode Island Military Census, the 1784 Rhode Island Census or Census substitutes, and the 1790 US Census of Rhode Island. This is a striking fact, even though the censuses may have been incomplete and some of the data for some towns has been lost. I have found no indication that there was a Loyd or Lloyd family living in Bristol, Rhode Island. Indeed, the only document supporting the idea that John 3rd was born in Rhode Island, is in the 1850 US Census for Otego, Otsego, New York which says that John 3rd's presumed sister Susanna Lloyd Tanner was born in Rhode Island.
    Family ID F934  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Devoe, Sarah,   b. 18 Oct 1777   d. 15 Nov 1821, Angelica, Allegany, New York Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 44 years) 
    Marriage 13 Mar 1796  Petersburgh, Rensselaer, New York Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • There is no marriage record, but the marriage almost certainly took place in Petersburgh, Rensselaer, New York, because Sarah's mother and step-father lived there (see Nathan Tanner). Also, Sarah and John's son John was born in Little Hoosick, a term for land along the Little Hoosick River in modern day Petersburgh or Berlin, New York. [12]
    Children 
     1. Lloyd, John 4th,   b. 25 Jan 1798, Petersburgh, Rensselaer, New York Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 22 Apr 1855, West Bloomfield, Ontario, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 57 years)
    Family ID F674  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 14 Jul 2021 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 14 Oct 1772 - Newport, Newport, Rhode Island Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 13 Mar 1796 - Petersburgh, Rensselaer, New York Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Married in Petersburgh in 1796. James Lewis & John Lloyd took over the lease for a farm in Petersburgh previously leased by Elijah Brown. John's name last appeared in the ledger 7 Sep 1802. Their lease itself has not survived. Under the terms of a standard Rennselaerwyck lease the tenant was responsible for all taxes. 1799 Tax Roll: John Loyd. Value of real estate - $532 1800 Tax Roll: John Loyd. Value of real estate - $532 1801 Tax Roll: John Loyd. Value of real estate - $532 1802 Tax Roll: John Loyd. Value of real estate - $532 1800 US Census Name: John Loyd Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Petersburg, Rensselaer, New York Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 [OK for John 4th] Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 3 [Brother of John 3rd?] Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 [OK for John 3rd] Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 2 [Daughter of John 3rd?] Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1 [Sister of John 3rd?] Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1 [Sarah] Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 [Mother of John 3rd?] Household is unexpectedly large for such a young man. Possibly John 2nd died in Rhode Island and John 3rd led his family to New York. - 1796 - 1802 - Petersburgh, Rensselaer, New York Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1802 Tax Roll: John Loyd & Co, Store, House, Mill & tavern, Real estate: $530, Personal: $184, Total: $714 1803 Tax Roll: John Loyd, Real estate: $1087, Personal: $255, Total: $1392 1810 US Census Name: J Loyd Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Plainfield, Otsego, New York Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 2 [John and Ransom] Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 5 [Who?] Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 [John] Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 [Who?] Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 2 [Nancy & who?] Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1 [Who?] Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1 [Who?] Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 [Sarah] Number of All Other Free Persons: 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 7 Number of Household Members Over 25: 3 Number of Household Members: 17 1820 US Census Name: John Loyd Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Plainfield, Otsego, New York Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820 Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 3 Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Free White Persons - Under 16: 5 Free White Persons - Over 25: 2 - 1802 - 1820 - Plainfield, Otsego, New York Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - That John and Sarah had removed to Angelica by 1821 is established by Sarah's death notice in the Watch Tower of 17 Dec 1821 which said "Died - In the Village of Angelica on the 15th of November last, Mrs. Sarah Lloyd, wife of Capt John Lloyd, late of Plainfield, in this county, aged 44 years, after a long and lingering sickness." 1830 US Census Name: John Lloyd Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Allegany, New York, Angelica Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1 Free White Persons - Under 20: 4 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 1 Total Free White Persons: 6 - 1821 - 1830 - Angelica, Allegany, New York Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 24 May 1837 - Warren County, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
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    Pin Legend  : Address       : Location       : City/Town       : County/Shire       : State/Province       : Country       : Not Set

  • Sources 
    1. [S202] findagrave.com, Memorial # 74314547.

    2. [S356] Rhode Island Roots, (Rhode Island Genealogical Society, 1975–), Vol. 5, No. 2, p. 15, 1979, https://www.americanancestors.org/DB487/rd/13203/15/234837522.

    3. [S184] East Manor Rent Ledger, Rensselaerwyck Manor Records, Reel 1, Ledger A, p. 118 (under the name of Elijah Brown), MA/FM,974.74,V36,1799-1820.

    4. [S309] New York Tax Assessments, (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014), Petersburgh, Rensselaer, New York, 1799-1802.

    5. [S86] 1800 US Census, (http://www.ancestry.com: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), Petersburg, Rensselaer, New York; Series: M32; Roll: 26; Page: 67; Image: 69; Family History Library Film: 193714.

    6. [S309] New York Tax Assessments, (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014), Plainfield, Otsego, 1802-1803.

    7. [1810 US CENSUS] Plainfield, Otsego, New York; Roll: 34; Page: 119; Image: 00071; Family History Library Film: 0181388.
      There were two J Loyds on this page.

    8. [S132] National Archives and Records Administration, n.d., 1820 US Census, (ancestry.com), Census Place: Plainfield, Otsego, New York; Page: 174; NARA Roll: M33_74; Image: 185.

    9. [S355] Watch Tower (newspaper) Cooperstown, New York, Monday, Dec. 17, 1821, Vol VIII, issue 403, p. 3.

    10. [S133] National Archives and Records Administration, 1830 US Census, (ancestry.com), Census Place: Angelica, Allegany, New York; Series: M19; Roll: 84; Page: 3; Family History Library Film: 0017144.

    11. [S135] Arnold, James N., Vital Record of Rhode Island, (Narraganset Historical Publishing Co.), Vol. 10, Town and Church, pp. 441, 458, https://www.americanancestors.org/DB532/rd/14497/441/264837727, 974.5 qA75 18.

    12. [S202] findagrave.com, Memorial # 62220932; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/62220932/john-lloyd.


 

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